Vorelle Sunday November 30th, 2008 3:40:06 PM
"The d-d-dragon could be l-l-lying," Vorelle reminds everyone via the Message spell. "She c-c-could be c-c-causing the acid. I v-v-vote we f-f-fight."
Concentrated conversation/DM Buzz Monday December 1st, 2008 1:42:23 PM
The group has a general consensus that the dragon will betray the group in some way and some suggest treachery of their own as Aztyr puts away her bow. Appolo switches from the idea of paying her off and returning later to collect compensation payed and suggests they fight by her rules until they begin to lose, then cheat. Lorth is in wonder at the thoughts of Malgant as the young beasts may eventually have caused problems for residents of the area, even though none have been reported in the past and the dragon has mentioned, her troubles with other monsters kept her busy enough and likely provide her with more treasure then a puny village ever could. Some like Vorelle feel as though they should fight even if it is common knowledge that Jancassius has caused the acid troubles and not the dragon, she does not believe such knowledge. Val expected the dragon to have them perform a deed as compensation, but clearly, the mother of the dead children have taken care of any problems of her past and still may take care of future problems if not appeased.
So the group spends another three minutes in mindful conversation and have four minutes left to either pay the compensation fine for her young of forty thousand in gold, gems or magic, enter the arena and prepare for battle, even though Lorth can not cheat, will he allow others of his group to do so? The third option is to search for her lair, in the jungle and swamp of the island, unless she lairs in volcano, which would be unusual for her breed, some could determine.
DM Buzz: When you guys finally decide what you want to do, I will send out a new map. No sense in wasted time, when you might not even use parts of it, but I am still keeping track of your movements until you leave this area.
Lorth AC 25 HP 111/111 Monday December 1st, 2008 2:45:21 PM
{OOC: I just want to tell you how I came to Lorth's reasoning DM Buzz, since I sense your trying to hint at not attacking or "cheating". It doesn't matter that said dragons have not attacked the general populace. Eventually they will grow up and do evil in the world, one island will not contain a brood of dragons. This is a D&D world. In D&D dragons are black and white. Colored dragons are evil, metallic ones are good. There is no in between, none. That is one of the problems/limitations with D&D, alignments. No matter how the DM tries to play it off, the rule system says they are evil and my paladin is good. Therefore they must be removed. In fact, black dragons are the exact polar opposite of Lorth's alignment. Should Lorth allow evil to exist because he believes it will stay contained to its part of the Wold? I think not.}
"I would oppose entering this combat under the pretext of following the dragon's rules then changing them mid-fight", Lorth adds. "If we enter the fight under the dragons rules, I will obey them. However, I do not think we should fight under the dragon's rules."
Active spells:
Resist energy acid ,20 acid resistance for 185 rounds Protection from acid, 120 acid resistance, 185 rounds Delay poison 9.5 hours
DM Buzz: Play your character as you want, but I don't see Lorth killing evil humans he may find in a town just because they are evil, if detected, now would you? Are you differentiating between evil species or evil in general, I wonder? Because you have a whole lot of killing to do in Aisildur, just a few hundred miles away if you want.
Light Fortification, AC 28, 82/82hp Malgant Monday December 1st, 2008 5:00:50 PM My point exactly Buzz On to the post
IC Malgant listens to the other's views as the clock continues to wind down. He feels the lightness of Aztyr's fly spell leave him, and he is wholly earthbound once more. When Lorth clarifies his view about using any and all means to fight the dragon Malgant remembers her terms and wants to clarify something befoe they get ready to fight. " As part of her terms, she mentioned no resist spells or enhancements of any kind. Currently we are all under spells to protect us from acid. To accept her challenge before they wear off would already be in violation of her terms. If we fight her without telling her about the spells we are cheating, by the letter of the challenge. If we inform her I suspect she will fly off and attack us later, with her full capabilities, when we are not prepared. With Aztyr's magic gone, we have no way of stopping her should she choose to leave the arena and attack us at a later time. The consensus of the group is to fight her, either now or at the time of her choosing. That is plain and I will fight her to my last breath if need be. Let us decide now how and where we will fight her, before she returns, so that we are all properly ready for her and can make our best showing against her. WHen this is over we can talk again about the other issues that lay in our past, I was wrong to bring them up now and cloud the issue at hand. For now, focus on the dragon." Spells active on me Magic vestment on my armor +2 ac bonus 7 hours of 10 hour duration remaining protection from acid 120 points 619 of 1000 rounds remaining fly expired remove fear expired
revised spell list 0 Level( 6) create water x2 purify food and drink x2 Destroy water x2
3rd Level (4+1) Domain magic vestment * dispel magic protection from energy x2** Invisibility purge
4h level (3+1) Domain divine power protection from energy (3rd) prayer (3rd) freedom of movement
5th level (2+1) Domain Righteous might true seeing commune *
Concentrated conversation/DM Buzz Monday December 1st, 2008 8:25:50 PM
OOC: She might not fly off if informed of the protections versus acid. She did mention no breath weapons, so..........
Val AC 26, HP 112/ 112 Monday December 1st, 2008 11:45:08 PM
"Let's just fight according to the terms. I've got a warhammer that should have a strong enough enchantment to hurt the beast. I'm not geared for dragons so I will have to do the best I can. We should watch for her treachery and be prepared to use whatever means necessary when she cheats."
Aztyr (58/58 hp, 25 AC and Jynx (29 hp, 18 AC)) Monday December 1st, 2008 11:46:01 PM
Aztyr rests her hands on the hilts of the swords hanging on her harness. "I'll stay out of the arguement about wether or not something or someone is born evil. But I will say I personally believe all intelligent beings make a choice as to thier behavior. But if we are going to fight this Dragon, then we fight the dragon. I'll do whatever I need, for us to live and I expect the rest of you to do the same." She then goes back to being quiet, knowing that her comments will probably fuel the comming arguement....
Vorelle Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 12:35:03 AM
Seeing as nothing is gained from her hiding, Vorelle re-joins the group. "I c-c-can use m-my axes," she says, "b-b-but I think I'd b-b-better just help."
[OOC: I plan to have Vorelle use the Aid Another action in combat, to make it easier for Lorth or Malgant or Vauhwyt to hit this thing. I think it's probably better than the lousy d6+1 Vorelle would do if she hit. :) ]
Lorth AC 25 HP 111/111 Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 9:37:03 AM
{OOC: Now your being silly, of course Lorth would do his utmost to remove any evil beings he came upon, if he knew they where evil. Of course he has to do it within the letter of the law, so in a society that allows evil people freedoms under the law, he can do nothing about, "or at least has to stay within the law". Also "character races" can be any alignment, black dragons are always CE, always. On a side note, detecting someones alignment is akin to assault, Lorth only does it when he has too, and prefers to let peoples actions speak for themselves. However Lorth doesnt need to detect on a black dragon, he knows it is evil.}
Lorth waits, he is done arguing, black dragons are evil, they don't get to make decisions not to be evil. Everyone knows from childhood that colored dragons are evil.
{Please see MM where it says, always evil. I point out again, I think it is a limitation of D&D, but it is the rules}
DM Buzz: SO humans are exempt from your wrath against evil because you are one also? To me, that is silly, but like I said before, play your character the way you desire. Your in an area that is undisputedly owned by evil, just as Aisildur is, so even here, you are breaking the law of the land
Vauhwyt (AC19, HP 100 of 85) and Mookie (AC15, HP 57 of 42) Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 11:59:13 AM
Vauhwyt shakes her head to clear it of the cobwebs. "This is easy. If I can kill this thing, I will. I make no promises and I agree to no terms. I do not bind others, and I do not agree to be bound."
"Right now I urge us to not be swayed by this dragon's clever ways. I say we should walk away, into the jungle, where the cover of the trees will hide us from aerial attack. Scout the island better, find out more, and attack at a time of our choosing. If the dragon wants to attack us in the night, then let her try."
"But I will stay with the group, no matter what. Our advantage is in being together. Separated, we can be picked off."
"Come friends, walk away. Maybe we can find the dragon's lair. Or gain some other advantage. I see no reason for us to fight here, on a battlefield created by the dragon to suit her own strengths."
"Away from this place, maybe the dragon will surprise us. Or maybe we will surprise her. If she could have defeated us in the dark in the jungle, she would have attacked last night. But she did not."
Light Fortification, AC 28, 82/82hp Malgant Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 5:16:05 PM
" Which shows at least some honor. Her strength lies in ambush. How easy would it have been to have assaulted us last night, with fresh rage at the death of her brood fueling her attacks? I say it showed supreme restraint to NOT attack last night, which makes her all the more dangerous. Let us finish it. Here. Now. She says there will be no rest for us should we walk away, and I believe her. Were we to walk away now, she would have free reign to attack us at our weakest, when we are separated, or worst still, while we are otherwise engaged. Imagine fighting a pack of the Slaad we have come to know so well, the ones that have come close to putting paid to our bill several times already. Imagine half of the group wandering aimlessly, after the Slaad utter another of their chaotic blasphemies and her walking among us, gleefully killing us one at a time, while the rest watch, nearly powerless to stop her with the group diminished. Fighting together, breath to bows or tooth to sword, I have no doubt of the outcome of the fight. I only lack the details of the cost we will pay before we see her dead. I say end it here, end it now, and pray that the repercussions that Domi said we would feel after removing the opposing Queen from the board are repercussions we can live with." Spells active on me Magic vestment on my armor +2 ac bonus 7 hours of 10 hour duration remaining protection from acid 120 points 619 of 1000 rounds remaining fly expired remove fear expired
revised spell list 0 Level( 6) create water x2 purify food and drink x2 Destroy water x2
3rd Level (4+1) Domain magic vestment * dispel magic protection from energy x2** Invisibility purge
4h level (3+1) Domain divine power protection from energy (3rd) prayer (3rd) freedom of movement
5th level (2+1) Domain Righteous might true seeing commune *
Vauhwyt (AC19, HP 100 of 85) and Mookie (AC15, HP 57 of 42) Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 7:05:31 PM
Vauhwyt will stay with the group, no matter that she would prefer to depart.
A roar of dismay/DM Buzz Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 8:02:09 PM
Leave or stay? what a dilemma the group faces, for they have but one minute to walk away, break out the compensation fee, which is looking less and less likely, or join in her battle arena with or without her agreements. The groups minds vary on the course and it is disturbed as the angry roar is heard once again, but the cause of the source is unseen.
From somewhere above you, you hear the voice of the dragon, "What a pretty boat I have seen in the cove as I flew around my small island. It appears to be unmanned therefore unowned. I think it is a pretty compensation as I will capsize it and watch it sink it to the bottom of the sea if I don't see my money in that arena in another ten minutes. Then, I will leave you here while I find a new island and a new lair. A new domain. That is the final ultimatum and I will no longer consider us acquaintances, you will not gain my help further without I receive what is due to me for payment of your transgressions. I had hoped we could help each other, but it appears, your lacking in social manners when visiting others."
You do hear the voice move in a large circle above you as the words are slow and distinct, but the distance from you to the speaker would be hard to determine, due to an instant change in it's position from flying, but perhaps 200+ feet from the ground would not be inaccurate.
Apparently, the dragon does have concerns about the groups prowess, as she would rather see them swim then fight them, but then again, who knows what she will do, but use the group if she can. Does she actually have a problem the group can solve? Is there a key to the source of the problem she can help the group with? All is unknown except her ability to believe that she will remain safe if your not willing to face her on her own terms.
What happened to Bart/William? Did he leave the group?
Appolo Protection from Acid 100 /20 Boots of Speed Haste +4 Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 8:45:02 PM
Appolo was just standing there listening and watching.When the Dragon appears again"We accept your terms.We are ready to fight,Son come on down here and fight.We're ready and just waiting for you.Or killing that pond scum you called children wasn't murder.It was just doing a public service.You know I eat what kill and Dragon meat is mighting good.So come on down let's have dinner.Your so called childern will probaly be better tasting then viel.!!You over grown flying chicken!!" he yels up at the dragon witha smile on his face.Apparently Appolo is looking forward to combat something he enjoys."
Vauhwyt (AC19, HP 100 of 85) and Mookie (AC15, HP 57 of 42) d100=21 ; Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 11:56:02 PM
Vauhwyt shrugs. She expected the boat to be destroyed. She is not surprised at that at all.
She does not think the dragon will leave the island, and she says so to the group. After all, the dragon has a hoard somewhere, surely. How could she transport the coins and gems of her hoard? With her claws?
She does not agree with Appolo when he says "we accept your terms." But she feels no need to correct him, either. She just expects to have to fight soon. She is sorry that a number of her spells are now wearing off. Mookie reverts to raven form. The acid resistances fizzle. She uses a third level slot to cast a new Acid Resistance on herself and Mookie -- arcane spell fail roll is a 21, no problem.
Resources used:
2 of 6 cantrips 4 of 7 first level spells 7 of 7 second level spells 1 of 4 third level spells
Current Effects (all shared with Mookie):
False Life: 2.1 hours used of 7 Nemesis Insight: 2.1 hours used of 7 Resist Energy (Acid) (20 pts): 1 used of 70 minutes
Select Expired Effects:
Resist Energy (Acid) (20 pts): 70 used of 70 minutes ON BART Resist Energy (Acid) (20 pts): 70 used of 70 minutes ON AZTYR Resist Energy (Acid) (20 pts): 70 used of 70 minutes ON VORELLE
Lorth AC 25 HP 111/111 Wednesday December 3rd, 2008 10:33:58 AM
{OOC: Did I say humans where exempt (where did you find this?), of Lorth's fight against evil? I said character races are harder to judge because their alignments can be anything, and if they are protected under the law, Lorth needs to abide by that. Black dragons are always evil, always. Secondly we are in the wild jungle, there is no established law or government of or over the "creatures" here.}
Lorth says nothing...
Bart ac 31 hp 105/105 Wednesday December 3rd, 2008 1:35:32 PM
We have no other option then to fight, I dont pay 40.000 gold to this dragon i doubt if we have enough gold among us. Leaving the arena now is no option because she will dammage our boat so we never can leave the island. Lets fight and keep to her rules as long as we can.
OOC sorry for the missed post lot has happend last week, my uncle died suddenly due to an cerabral infarction (stroke)
Light Fortification, AC 28, 82/82hp Malgant Wednesday December 3rd, 2008 8:33:41 PM
Malgant backs Appolo's play and steps out into the arena. His geatsword once more in hand he is prepared for the dragon's coming, should she be brave enough to face them. Spells active on me Magic vestment on my armor +2 ac bonus 7 hours of 10 hour duration remaining protection from acid 120 points 619 of 1000 rounds remaining fly expired remove fear expired
revised spell list 0 Level( 6) create water x2 purify food and drink x2 Destroy water x2
3rd Level (4+1) Domain magic vestment * dispel magic protection from energy x2** Invisibility purge
4h level (3+1) Domain divine power protection from energy (3rd) prayer (3rd) freedom of movement
5th level (2+1) Domain Righteous might true seeing commune *
Vorelle Wednesday December 3rd, 2008 10:05:31 PM
In preparation for the battle, Vorelle places her bow inside her magic quiver, and leaves both near Champ. She makes sure the dog's lead is securely tied to a tree.
"It'll b-be all right," she tells him in a whisper.
Val AC 26, HP 112/ 112 Wednesday December 3rd, 2008 10:08:18 PM
"Say the word and I start making her a pincushion. She's not out of my range. After that let's find her layer and slaughter all dragons we find. She has a hoard on this island and wouldn't leave without it. First her rules take away our strength and now she changes them even more. If she sinks the boat, so be it. We won't be trapped here. Some of us can fly with magic. They can get to shore and get help. The rest of us will be able to survive for awhile here."
Apologies/DM Buzz Wednesday December 3rd, 2008 10:56:33 PM
OOC: Sorry guys, hurting a lot tonight and can't concentrate right now. I will get you a post in the morning with a 90% guarantee. I am having high and low tides as it were, dealing with my surgery and now I am completely off the narcotic meds, I can really feel the difference. I'm likely dealing with withdrawals as well, having been on them 5 weeks.
Thank you for the understanding, my posts will improve as I heal, so please don't feel I'm neglecting you on purpose.
I'm also trying to get a few battle rules correct, so that any battle will run smoother then if I try to work through any battle without the knowledge I need. It's hard to concentrate right now.
A silver speck/DM Buzz Thursday December 4th, 2008 11:23:00 AM
OOC: A clearing up of things. First off, going into the past, I noticed with the Commune spells a couple of mistakes Jamie might have misunderstood. If I missed something though, please let me know. The "Disc" is actually a Black Dragon scale you found in that hut near Acid Village after fighting the Sladds. If this is not the object in question, I missed where you picked it up and please give me a reference. So instead, the answer to the question. "Are the Black Dragons the cause of the Blight" The answer should have been. "Not the cause, but the solution."
Secondly, Jancasisus is the cause of the Blight, not the Black Dragons. It is a curse on the land due to some transgressions the citizens caused, which the original DM, Kent did not elaborate on, with me, so I will make up a reason myself, for you to figure out, if you desire, if it even matters.
Appolo standing on the large pile of brush with Val are the first to see a silver speck off to the east. It must be a far way off because as it approaches, it gets larger and larger. "Now the fun is spoiled" says the invisible Black Dragon right behind the two on the mound as it seems she was soon to attack the two, but with a whoosh only those two can feel and without attack, she flies over their heads in an unknown direction and is not heard from for awhile.
It takes around five minutes for the large creature from the east to actually be recognized and it is a gargantuan Silver Dragon that finally lands on the beach near the arena. It smiles at any that are near and greets them with a polite manner.
"I am called Xitalchintalical, but you may call me "Zill" if your mouths can not form such words. I have been sent by Pantheon whose ways I adore to this island and now I see why." The enormous creature which is way larger then the Black Dragon you have been dealing with shouts out, "Viscous" what trouble is present on your island"
From above, the invisible black shouts down in an angry tone as her fun is now apparently over, for now, "These, these trespassers have killed my brood and now want to do battle. So why are you here, we have an agreement!"
The Silver Dragon nods it's head in sadness, "I understand Viscous, but they are on a quest that must be performed."
A huge roar is heard much higher now as it appears she regains her altitude in the time it took "Zill" to arrive.
Xitalchintalical looks toward the group, in a general manner, taking in everyone that can be seen, "Tell me your side of the story and why have you come here? Who is your spokesperson?"
Bart ac 31 hp 105/105 Thursday December 4th, 2008 12:48:23 PM
OOC Clarification before ic posts?
In my opinion u cant change the storyline if we had known thes answers maybe our actions could be different then we do now. Original Questions and answers 1. Will defeating the mother remove the acid blight? A. Yes, however, in removing the dragons you will be unleashing something far more deadly unto the land. Imagine a chess board. The queens help keep one another in check. There is an opposite and equally deadly queen on this board.
2. Are the dragons the cause of the acid blight? A. Yes. So if im correct killing the dragon still solve the problem (due to answer to question 1)
My suggestion keep the answers as stated in the earlier post and change the module according to the these answers.
Dm Buzz: Actually William, I can and I have. I'm not changing the module due to a misunderstanding of a previous DM that was in a time crunch and didn't have time to read the archives or email Kent for explanations. Not only that, but nothing much has really changed, as if you look in past posts I mentioned, while missing the commune spell answers myself, that the dragons couldn't have caused such a problem and everyone knows Jancassius the "Acid Witch" is involved. Thank you though for your input and the situation is as it stands. Please feel free to post your characters actions according to the last DM post.
OOC/DM Buzz Thursday December 4th, 2008 2:33:59 PM
OOC: A quick mistake correction, "Viscous" can be seen high above two minutes before the Silver Dragon arrives. 300+ feet and looking very angry as she watches the approch of the Silver Dragon.
Aztyr (58/58 hp, 25 AC and Jynx (29 hp, 18 AC)) Thursday December 4th, 2008 3:33:09 PM
As the extreamly large Silver Dragon lands and speaks, Aztyr now understands the meaning of big in a whole new perspective. As Aztyr tries to pronounce Xitalchintalical four or five times, she gets frustraited and says, "Zill, our spokesman is Malgant." and she points towards the Minotaur. She continues to wonder just what is happening here...
OOC: about the disc, it was never told to us it was a Black Dragon Scale, although a few of us probably had figured it out already.
Light Fortification, AC 28, 82/82hp Malgant Thursday December 4th, 2008 5:54:44 PM
OOC right As you might have noticed we lack finger wigglers in a big and hard way. Those we have are set up to do what they do effectively and not identify magic items( which is totally in character and not a problem, just pointing it out). That's why none of the stuff is identified and as far as I know none of us has any knowledge that allowed us to recognize the scale for what it was/is. Actually the Commune happened at least one, maybe way more than that posts before I was ready to cast it. I was asking the group for input and all of a sudden the spell was cast before half the group could respond, hence the way lower than all the number of questions I COULD have asked that were asked. Anyway, that's over with. I noticed that the answers were not matching the conversation but made the same assumption as William that killing the Black would bring the whole blight thing to a head and bring us face to face with the REAL culprit. Thus the not campaigning TOO hard to avoid he fight.
Now on to the more meaty problem I am faced with. What the hell do I tell Zill? I would be telling an agent of Pantheon the truth anyway, but what is the truth? Do I tell the silver that when I asked for some guidance I caught Domi at a bad time and he had just done some shrooms before telling me that the Black dragon was the cause and defeating her would end the blight . Thus I was ready to kill another dragon on top of the death of her brood, which I already feel was wrong? Or, do I apply the hot fix answer you supplied us with that I should be seeking the dragon as a solution to our problem, which makes us guilty as hell because we were about to kill her? Either way we are screwed.
Dm Buzz: I see your point, but not really screwed, the baby brood would have attacked you anyway and you would have defended yourself, if you had subdued them all, then, the Mother dragon is in some ways acting in her nature, greedy as Hades and looking for something from you in return for what she calls information, it would likely have been much less then if you hadn't killed her kids, but that is now in the past. Either way, it's going to cost you and you can't be blamed for defending yourselves. So, just tell the truth, they were nasty things that bit off more then they can chew and you hate evil and despise the fact you have to deal with this creature. You would have recognized the disc as a scale the minute you saw her, meaning she likely has been dealing with the Sladds also, which carry decent treasure.
Remember, you didn't cast the Commune spell until after the brood was killed, that is why it doesn't really matter. If you had cast the spell before, then your arguument would be sound and I would have changed the module.
Vorelle Thursday December 4th, 2008 6:01:23 PM
Vorelle hasn't been this confused since the last time she was Confused.
"N-n-not m-me," is all she says in response to the "who is your spokesman" question. And she says it in such a low voice that it is nearly impossible to hear.
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